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Metastability? You're pretty cheerful.

Your namesake, the sudden universal apocalypse? nnnnNot pretty cheerful.

nerd power

I got a huge nerd-out while reading Charybdis and I wanted to share something I noticed with this part:

The Martian virus, we injected when the new organs were still developing from stem cells. To our surprise, a reaction formed between them and the augmented cells, which ended up engulfing the virus and adding it to their cell structure, as a sort of new type of organelle. That was… very interesting, so we took samples and we're currently observing that in lab conditions.

I found it familiar to the Martians in "First and Last Men" by Olaf Stapledon, which is his fictional chronicle of the evolution of mankind through millions of years. In the story, the Second Men were advancing their society when they were invaded by gelatinous, green psychic aliens from Mars. They eventually defeat the invaders although the cellular remains of the Martians become an airborne virus-like organism, killing more of the already-depleted survivors.

However, when mankind advances to the nth Men (I forgot which) their ancestors discovered a way to incorporate the Martian cells and their psychic potential into their genome, making humanity as a whole more harmonious with each other because they could then share their minds. This is pretty important because mankind's future psychic ability is the reason why a member of the Eighteenth Men could "influence" Olaf Stapledon in-character to write about man's history in the 20th century.

I just feel that the Martian Microbes is so related to Stapledon's work and I'm enthused to give it a thumbs-up!

by MetastabilityMetastability, 18 Jun 2019 05:05

Woohoo! It's a nerdy utopia!

Okay, everyone… I'll be sure to check every recommendation that all of you linked here. Thanks for the warm welcome!

Ok, but did you get a brand new site theme when you got that karma?

Yeah, that's what I thought. (⌐■_■)

Imagine a scenario where the Insurgency totally drives out every other GOI from an entire continent. The tactics involved will differ depending on which country so I'll try to be broad.

  • Item acquisition will still be top priority to the CI because they've already weakened the other organizations to the point where they're powerless to stop us. But if we really hated some groups, nudge-nudge I can imagine that we'll devote a little to destroy them. If we were using Items, we maybe shouldn't use the ones we've stolen retrieved because our enemies might know more about them and exploit their knowledge.
  • If we're talking about a continent of roughly a billion people? Then, no. Insu would rise up. Many other GOIs in the SCP-verse have established themselves as friends to certain people in the government, etc. But going public to bring anomalous powers to the forefront of the world's attention would be the CI's goal and Miranda above me brings up good points. We would have the initiative to be seen as the good side if we could control public interest.
  • we have a lot of precise weaponry like Charybdis, Terror Bites, Tuskbore, the Archangel, that can minimize our collateral. Then again, we're the Insurgency of Chaos, so maybe we'd deliberately cause as much damage as we could as a testament to our power.
  • Unless it's for PR, the priority for repairing damages would either be low or high, depending on your idealism of the Insurgency's vision. Absolute power a la 1984? Low. Utopian vision a la Genosha? Very high. I like both imo
  • Insu would like more Items to play with, more resources, including human resources, more influence in the minds of people and more attention in the spotlight, baby.
  • CI-land would gradually integrate its civilians to a world upgraded through anomalies. They'll likely rehaul education to produce plenty more scientists and freethinkers as future members.
  • Because we just proved that we coild win in a fight against all the other anomalous groups and we just gained access to an entire continent! Muahahahaha! Unless it's 'Straya, because if it is, ruuun!!!
  • Seizing hearts and minds abroad, causing public unrest and distrust of our enemies, bringing world leaders to our side and preparing for an invasion of Continent #2.

I'm really liking the new theme, btw. The new fonts fit the Insurgency so well. Also remaking the theme with a different color for Insu's Sandbox was a nice touch.

Edit: Xythinien, please collapse your screenshot. Thanks

by MobaineMobaine, 18 Jun 2019 00:30
by Doctor XythinienDoctor Xythinien, 17 Jun 2019 20:22

I decided to create a POI folder for The White Empress, what do you think about that?

http://ci-sandbox.wikidot.com/miranda-room


J'ai deux nouvelles, une mauvaise et une bonne
La mauvaise nouvelle c'est que je ne peux pas forcer les gens à m'accepter ou à m'aimer
La bonne nouvelle c'est que j'en ai rien à foutre

So, than tell me oh wise wanderer.

What happened, in times long past?


Fighting Monsters and Language since 2016.

I have literally no idea if this monstrosity is good or bad but I regret nothing. I don't feel any remorse. In fact, I feel a little giddy… In fact, I feel a lot giddy.

Also, it would help me a lot if you could send a screenshot of how the theme looks from your end.


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by DrCaduceusDrCaduceus, 17 Jun 2019 16:30

This depends on how victory was archived.

If the victory was won in the shadows it would be possible to monopolies the anomalies (until something like "are we cool yet?" or something from "the factory" blows up in our face).

If the victory was won in the open, by arming the public, than a total victory will most likely result in civil war. Because the ones that have power (which would be everyone who fought the war) lack loyalty or the will to surrender to a higher power.

Based on where the Insurgency is headed (canonically) now I'd say we would eventually get every anomaly under control, sentient or otherwise, until some human dose something stupid human to mess everything up (like losing the passwords for mega weapons or not carrying a 1 in some important equation).

The Insurgency would most likely build a front that anyone in the public would know and keep the whole "Chaos Insurgency Site of Business" as a black ops (most likely setting up a future rebellion of said black ops).

An "Everyone knows it and no one can deny it" type event (like scientifically replicating magic) would ripe the masquerade quite significantly. Yet again, the Foundation covered up that a long time ago color invaded the universe. Something on the scale of a new atom bomb would probably do the trick or just a good helping of "Anti-Amnestics" for everyone.

Leveling a continent is not out of reach, but most likely a lot of people would be dead, replaced by robots, zombies or all of the above together.

The CI would most likely rebuild quite fast, dropping the costs of rebuilding as fast as people who don't know how to handle anomalous construction-sites.

Conflict would essentially become the norm after the war, since the wild west of anomalies is now a global thing. On the other hand coming back from the dead would be just as commercialized as parking tickets, so eventually people would stop killing each other and start to develop new ways to hurt each other, until all of that is no longer accepted by "the youth" who would probably invent something anomalous and "human" that will probably doom us all.

The Insurgency would probably celebrate the destruction of its enemies and than immediately start to deal with the fallout of there own actions. The Foundation kept a lot of things that we would have to deal with somehow. The job to enlighten the world is never done, so we would look to the stars, boldly go out there and get our planet eaten by something big.


Bottom line: we are doomed, except if humanity leaves behind its human nature (in which case, a CI victory would constitute the end of humanity and the beginning of a new species (which will inevitably produce its own version of the Insurgency and the whole thing starts all over again)).


Fighting Monsters and Language since 2016.

good god cad what is this css monstrosity
it is glorious


Best regards,
Dr. Xythinien

by Doctor XythinienDoctor Xythinien, 17 Jun 2019 16:11

I know the answers you seek.


Best regards,
Dr. Xythinien

I think I'm responding to the different point you raised because I find them particularly interesting.

  • Do we ultimately take all of the other groups' Items for our own or concentrate on completely eradicating our enemies?

For me CI can do both, however I think she would concentrate on recovering as many objects as possible to increase her influence little by little

  • Expanding on the latter, do we go so far as executing Items that are loyal to them or attempt to swerve them to our side? How?

I hesitate about that, I'll think about it again

  • If we have a chance to control a public entity, like a national government, or a mega-corporation, will Insu prefer to stay in the shadows?

an IC that shows itself in public and presents itself as a good organization can bring back a lot of positive opinions that SCP hiding from the public, it can even bring back supporters in the event that SCP launches an assault against CI. People will defend CI and not SCP, considering them as a renegade organization that wants to harm CI. We will then find ourselves on a rather funny parallel because SCP will be considered as "bad" while CI as "nice". Hiding in the shadows brings mistrust, if CI can succeed in getting the favours of "normal" people in front of a public audience then you become almost untouchable.

  • Which kind of victory would best necessitate 'breaking the masquerade?'

I hesitate about that, I'll think about it again

  • What are the likeliest kinds of collateral damage after an Insurgency attack?

Material damage and loss of notoriety especially, human losses will not help CI to progress.

  • How high is the priority for the Insurgency to invest in repairing the damage from Items?

it comes down to the same thing for me if you invest in damage caused by objects you gradually gain the favor of the public and abnormal government organizations.

  • What will we gain from the spoils of war?

I hesitate about that, I'll think about it again

  • Under a hypothetical CI-controlled society, would civilians be allowed to keep or use anomalies as personal property, or will anomalies be monopolized by the rulers?

we would gradually give people anomalies, but it should be done little by little and closely monitored. Set up a specialized police force, for example

  • In your particular scenario, why would Insu consider it a major victory?

Because it would have initially detached itself from its title of "renegade child" of SCP and demonstrated that the anomalies can be used in public.

  • In your particular scenario, what would be Insu's next steps following its victory?

I hesitate about that, I'll think about it again


J'ai deux nouvelles, une mauvaise et une bonne
La mauvaise nouvelle c'est que je ne peux pas forcer les gens à m'accepter ou à m'aimer
La bonne nouvelle c'est que j'en ai rien à foutre

squirbo be raging

+1


Best regards,
Dr. Xythinien

by Doctor XythinienDoctor Xythinien, 17 Jun 2019 15:31

FEEBLE ONE-KARMA MORTAL, YOU ARE BUT A STAIN UPON MY EXISTENCE.


Best regards,
Dr. Xythinien

Hmm…


Best regards,
Dr. Xythinien

Re: +1 by Doctor XythinienDoctor Xythinien, 17 Jun 2019 15:01

Hello there Meta

Miraculously recovers from spaghettification.

Big 'hello' to you as well, Metastability. You're a huge nerd and I like it. Mobaine was right, you'll fit right in along with the rest of the nerds. I'm an administrator of this site. If there's anything you need answered (particularly physics-related stuff, if you're so inclined. Gotta shape up for academics :p), shoot me a PM. I made this forum thread on what happens if the Insurgency wins recently, so feel free to pitch in.

Enjoy!


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According to the wiki's lore and your personal ideas, what do you think are some likely actions that the CI would take after a victory? What would be the consequences of such a big win for us? There can be a lot of differences with our site's interpretations of the Insurgency and other approaches. Feel free to conjure up the scenario for said victory to lend further context.

For example:

  • Do we ultimately take all of the other groups' Items for our own or concentrate on completely eradicating our enemies?
    • Expanding on the latter, do we go so far as executing Items that are loyal to them or attempt to swerve them to our side? How?
  • If we have a chance to control a public entity, like a national government, or a mega-corporation, will Insu prefer to stay in the shadows?
    • Which kind of victory would best necessitate 'breaking the masquerade?'
  • What are the likeliest kinds of collateral damage after an Insurgency attack?
  • How high is the priority for the Insurgency to invest in repairing the damage from Items?
  • What will we gain from the spoils of war?
  • Under a hypothetical CI-controlled society, would civilians be allowed to keep or use anomalies as personal property, or will anomalies be monopolized by the rulers?
  • In your particular scenario, why would Insu consider it a major victory?
  • In your particular scenario, what would be Insu's next steps following its victory?

(Moved to In-Universe.)

silently making notes on answers.


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Welcome to the Insurgency.

Believe in your dreams and act accordingly. You can go fare with an unstable, yet very stable power source like dreams.

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