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Re: Tech Notes

Zesc 18 Jul 2026 17:43
in discussion Wiki Announcements and Proposals / Project Bulletin » Tech Notes

So I have good news, because for once I did not just claim to be working on wiki migration, but actually follow up by actually doing that.

So far I went through the process of actually setting up a MediaWiki instance on an nginx instance (instead of just messing with crappy local solutions) and frankly the process is quite simple. You just extract the MW provided archive, tell nginx where the root lies, and paste a ~20 lines config and that's pretty much it. However, I'll mention the two issues I ran into for the sake of posteriority anyway:

1. Don't just apt install mediawiki; that package (at least on APT, idk how it is for AUR, flatpack, etc.) comes with an apache2 webserver that, during the APT installation process, is going for full on murderization of your beautiful, lightweight nginx server¹. You can install MariaDB the necessary php dependencies manually, the Installation Requirements give you a handy overview of packages].
2. I initially had problems actually running the wiki software because for some godforsaken reason, it was expecting a php8.1-fpm socket for cgi, whilst I had php8.4 installed. I tried messing around in the nginx config to adjust that path, but after some time I gave up and simply ln php8.4-fpm.sock php8.1-fpm.sock in /var/run/php. That surprisingly worked, even thought I never expected PHP to actually use semantic versioning. Could this cause nigh-undiagnosable errors down the line? Maybe. Probably less than having two concurrent PHP versions installed? Certainly.

So I guess my next step is to try that again on an actually public-reachable server with its own domain. Since nginx also implements a mail server (which you'll need because of domain registration shenenigans) that's something I should look at. Besides that, it'll be development of the wiki theme and dealing with the forum and page ratings.

The latter is actually pretty straightforward now, becaus by virtue of being a lazy bum it seems like the RatePage extension has been developed to include basically every feature we would have needed in the meantime.

Forum… eh. There are plenty interesting things you can do with talk pages, but I'm not much of a fan, tbh. We could juts use redirect magic and use forum software on a different subdomain, but that opens up the question of user accounts. So far I think that's actually the biggest issue we'll be having.

The last thing will be bot protection. And look, I am 100% on board with handing everyone who asks a full wikidump. Period. But we also know that the scraperpocalypse is currently in full swing and you'll be flooded by arseholes trying to train their plagiarism machines on your free content the moment you go live. No idea how to handle that. We can't afford a honeypot, IP-banning doesn't work, Anubis is vibe-coded and JS-dependent, so is Gandalf (I also think Gandalf isn't open source) and CloudFlare is a no.

Oh hey looks like the guy who singelhandedly did more for the modern web than all of GAFAM combined has no clue either. Fuck.

Footnotes

1. Which is totally unrealistic. I've watched enough mecha shows to know that the spunky protagonist's old Apache II rig is going to get absolutely curbstomped by the evil Engine X during the tournament arc and it takes a lot of filler episodes and the power friendship for him to eventually succeed - which will never happen since every mech show that isn't Gundam never makes it past a first cour.

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Re: Securety

Zesc 18 Jul 2026 17:06
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Backups

If you experience broken CSS (or the top nav bar being broken, which is actually a JS issues because of course we need JavaScript to re-implement basic HTML features), I recommend you to check the headers of your .html files. It could be that wget retrieved some content from the cloudfront.net CDN in gzip format and forgot to extract them.

run grep -r s.gz * in your directory base, that's the most likely culprit, if you get any hits, that's the most likely culprit. Simply run gunzip -r * in the cloudfront.net directory then and something like find ./ -type f -exec sed -i -e 's/s.gz/s/g' {} \; in the archive root to fix repair every instance.¹²

I think the --compression= command flag can help with this stuff but seriously somehow each option does something different than what you'd expect so running a fix-up script might unironically be the most pragmatic solution for now.

As for the forum: …no, I don't think I fetched any XML, but upon further inspection, I think that's for multi-page forum threads? I frankly never bothered to check beyond loading up the first page of a forum thread so I never noticed the rest being borked. I think the fix is probably also JavaScript related to load those afterwards but as of now I'm mostly guessing.

I took a look at your github link and frankly, my visceral recoil from seeing some dockerized node.js-bullshit already makes me incredibly biased against whatever the flying fuck those industry-bootlickers have cooked up now.

I suppose, since the WD API is a strong case of WikiDon't, this might be somewhat useful if you actually want the retrieve the per-page revision history and changelogs and whatnot; somewhat superfluous for our size.

Also, like, wget is a preinstalled utility on pretty much every linux distro ever and has an unblemished 30-year history of doing exactly what it's supposed to do, with extensive documentation and interoperability and customization options.

That options is so fundamentally broken they expect you to run it containerized³ from the get-go (where it will slurp up unreasonable amounts of resources) and I furthermore based on Node.js and adsfdadfdgeafh I don't even know where to start there. Was there even one week this year that disgrace upon human achievement did not have some critical eco-system-wide CVE and/or package-based worm? No kinkshaming, but I'm really not into the whole pain and humiliation that brings with it.

I haven't grabbed the sandbox yet, but might, frankly.

Oh yeah, also since I'm currently in the middle of moving (for the second time this year), that means I technically have off-site backups as of now. Yeah, we're playing in the big leagues.

Footnotes

1. And yes, I have a sed.sh in my home directory taking exactly two strings for arguments and substituting them into this crap because there's no way I remember sed syntax … and it's still the preferable alternative to awk, python and perl. Yikes.

2. Also fairly certain this forum post in particular would be affected by the naive fix-up but can you really be bothered?

3. Fun fact: Docker only made it big through massive financial support from In-Q-Tel, a company generally recognized to be the CIA's investment arm. Now I am not a cooky conspiracy theorist who will immediately go "it's backdoored! It's a trojan horse" because guess what? A) the only thing worse than not getting into their enemies' stuff for an intelligence agency is their enemies getting into their countries' stuff. And B) perhaps somebody involved into such massive data-processing as a Five-Eyes TLA might actually have a legitimate need for Docker, and at this point it's like arguing "Oh no, I am not using that ballistic vest, the CIA was involved in the R&D so it must have some secrete weakness" which is just stupid. Like, perhaps somebody in urgent need of a solution will genuinely invest into such a solution? But then I recognize that's actually too much of sensible take to post on the internet … anyway, Docker was made by the CIA. Take from that whatever you want.

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Re: CRITIQUE NEEDED: THE INFOGRAPHIC MAN

Meta Wonderrat 15 Jul 2026 19:18
in discussion Help Section / Help: Drafting » CRITIQUE NEEDED: THE INFOGRAPHIC MAN

Greetings.

Here are a few thoughts:

1. The anomaly has no reason to have errors in its documentation. There are anomalies that require errors for storage purposes, for example if an anomaly replicates via 1:1 knowledge about it, but this is not the case here.
2. "No Hazardous Properties Detected", as you work with a number instead of a name, let me put it in SCP terms: If it thinks it is at least Euclid. Even if it were just a normal guy with a very informative tattoo he can still steal a gun and shot someone. Also we need to be sure that we do not use the affected color. It is generally bad if a bad batch of paint might leak CI data to what ever entity makes the records.
3. "Reported Anomaly [REDACTED]", if a Beta reads this you better explain why the second highest authority is required to open the article and only the top people get to know what is actually going on.
4. "not so useless and not so useful for being considered an useless or useful anomaly" not a thing. We either have a use for the guy or we do not. There once was a discussion about it where an author had made a gun so great no one was ever allowed to use it. A gun that will never be used is useless.
5. You invoke high security/secrecy and than do not list what we use it for. The Budget Committee does not work on "Trust me bro". If we pay money to conceal it we need a reason why it has to be concealed.
6. "480 ronnabytes data about the color Red Purple", near infinite information about a color? Could be interesting and useful, but you do not describe it well. Does it have info on every paint bucket to ever have that color, does the info update or is it static, what about "white" that by definition includes all color? Also we have a storage problem. According to a quick search earth has about 3.6 x 10^51 atoms. Ronnabytes would be "ronna 10^80" and "bytes 1 byte = 8 bits" for a total of 8 x 10^80 units of information in 1 ronnabyte. Even if it saves on every atom on earth we are orders of magnitude away from it all fitting, completly disregarding the "Normal man shape" the article claims.
7. "for Chaos Insurgency steal", why do we even need to steal it? If it has all information about something we can just make our own. Why risk it?
8. "and was used so", it would be nice if you kept punctuation, so that i know that you did intent to end the article there.
9. "The Infographic Man", still no idea why it has that name.

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CRITIQUE NEEDED: THE INFOGRAPHIC MAN

Chollerman 15 Jul 2026 00:59
in discussion Help Section / Help: Drafting » CRITIQUE NEEDED: THE INFOGRAPHIC MAN

http://ci-sandbox.wikidot.com/the-infographic-man

Re: Securety

Meta Wonderrat 28 Jun 2026 18:43
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Backups

I got myself a backup of main and sandbox.
I also found that i have some of the forums (in .xml), but those get not displayed properly. Also the CSS on my author page is broken and shows the unused Valentin background for some reason.
Can you confirm wether your backup has the xml forum parts and the broken css?

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Re: CoverArt

LasNeonach 25 Jun 2026 12:06
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Ewa

thx for approving and I changed the file (even slightly compressed with out some giagantic drop in quality)

Re: CoverArt

Meta Wonderrat 24 Jun 2026 20:34
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Ewa

Art in articles is nice, and since the image looks transformative I do not think there would be a licensing issue. As you said, I am not sure there is/has to be an in-universe explanation for the image. Could you use jpg instead of png? The image file is quite large without it.

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CoverArt

LasNeonach 22 Jun 2026 16:50
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Ewa

Decided to experiment a bit and Wanted to give this article a Cover art so somehow spice up this More conventional article. I guess one could imagine it as some sort of Art made inuniverse or not. Or a cover art for a methaforical comicbook. Mostly I just wanted to include various elements associated with biblical eve. Like her symbol in Blissymbolics. Hope it won't be skubby for others. Espcecialy since I already experimented with that concept here http://ci-wiki.wikidot.com/trouble-in-a-spoil-of-war

Re: A few observations

Meta Wonderrat 15 Jun 2026 18:34
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Kingdomcraft

Before starting from 0 I would suggest to sandbox this. The CI-Sandbox is a good place to work on things and get feedback later.

I had to take down a lot of my work, but it is all still available if someone (like me) wants to take another go at it. I also recommend the "Introduction to Item Creation". People seem to get value out of it.

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Re: A few observations

Ohnesorge001 15 Jun 2026 12:09
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Kingdomcraft

Yeah, I rushed this. I'll delete it and take more time with the next one.

A few observations

Meta Wonderrat 07 Jun 2026 16:36
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Kingdomcraft

Greetings.

I have a few questions:

And thanks to the defensive help from the In-Worlders

This part of usage just ends. Why?

Why is the anomaly marked as non-living and non-sentient? If things can sigh and enforce treaties I would expect at least some mind, the Archonian stuff further down seems to also point to at least sentience.

How do we know that the Foundation has difficulties intercepting these messages? If a person can decode it an office full of people can do so too.

source code, development history, or physical host system

Why do we trust something like this?
That thing could be entirely run by the Foundation for all we know.

modified game client labeled "Kingdomcraft"

Does this have source code? Who modified it?

Even if Foundation personnel gain access to a transmission, though it is highly unlikely

and

Foundation cyberwarfare divisions have reportedly intercepted thousands of transmissions yet recovered nothing but seemingly random gameplay logs

Contradict each other.

Your idea has well studied real-world parallels (with sum drug groups organizing in Minecraft). Once game logs are known they can be matched to observed CI behaviors and used to establish a pattern.

Sometimes the only thing needed to get the log-in from some guys "Cookie Sovereign". How do you input that into the game with the client?

regularly finish assigned quests within the game to maintain Archonian peace

If our inputs are encoded within the game-world what makes us think theirs are not? Maybe we are doing wood-gathering quests, but in reality the Archonian just need human input to bypass an arcane lock that "can only be opened by humans".

This post has been edited for clearer formatting.

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Re: Review for Acceptance: The Pool

Meta Wonderrat 07 Jun 2026 16:06
in discussion Help Section / Help: Drafting » Review for Acceptance: The Pool

If the grammar errors purpose is to confuse it does that. At the end i was not sure whether this is supposed to be an item affected by itself or something completely different.

Please explain to me:

• What the item is
• Why the Insurgency would have its documentation riddled with errors
• Why we woulds want to expose new recruits to it

From what I could gather: Something in the pool talks, this causes suicide or people getting murdered by the pool. If you are lucky (shorter than 3 hours) you get a book that has no value. Torturing people with near death is something some cells do, but those cells tend to implode. You do not torture someone than give them a gun and tell them you might torture them again, while they have a gun.
The pool might be an expert in its field, but that does not explain why it dumbs down the item file.

Usually if item files are affected by an anomaly someone that has never interacted with the anomaly will clean up the file. It is also generally a bad idea to push most if not all new recruits through something that messes up their brain to the point that they can no longer write.

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Review for Acceptance: The Pool

Chollerman 04 Jun 2026 16:50
in discussion Help Section / Help: Drafting » Review for Acceptance: The Pool

I created one Item for Chaos Insurgency and i post this thread for reviewing for acceptance for the page, for i write here officialy, the gramatical errors are purposeful
link: http://ci-sandbox.wikidot.com/the-pool

Re: Let's make another contest

Meta Wonderrat 20 May 2026 22:10
in discussion Wiki Announcements and Proposals / Policy Discussion/Proposals » Let's make another contest

Unlike SCP our items are not numbered. If you only go by the staff page count the 100 is close, but there are items on the main site that do not appear on that list.

Even if we disregard the hidden items and imported items I do not think we have to make a big deal out of it. It might cause a block as a special 100 page might put the thing under so much scrutiny that nothing looks good enough. Maybe some lucky member just happens to post two items back-to-back and get it that way.

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Re: This

Meta Wonderrat 20 May 2026 21:46
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Christmas Room

Got the dates in order with the British English standard. It is closer to my native date format which is Day/Month/Year. I have only written the months out to avoid misunderstandings there.

I do not use automated grammar checks and only old-school spellcheck. If you see something you would like to correct you have my permission to edit the page. If you are more comfortable with giving me a list of mistakes, I will fix them myself.

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Re: This

Blue Lead 18 May 2026 19:55
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Christmas Room

The story is good but needs a run through to recheck grammar. Off the bat, I noticed dates are improperly formatted and you’ve used improper ordinal numbers. There’s more but I won’t make edits without approval.

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Re: Let's make another contest

Blue Lead 18 May 2026 03:20
in discussion Wiki Announcements and Proposals / Policy Discussion/Proposals » Let's make another contest

A contest based around astrology, and space in general, could be good as well given renewed interests in space travel as a result of the Artemis program. Definitely one of those things that’s near limitless in its scope and scale and always provides good content.

Also yes, Item 100 is coming up soon and it definitely needs to be memorable.

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Re: Let's make another contest

Crayon man 09 May 2026 00:20
in discussion Wiki Announcements and Proposals / Policy Discussion/Proposals » Let's make another contest

An bounty hunt is fine, and if we are doing that, I would like to suggest interlinking with an existing Item/tale, and featuring a character as reachable goals.

Otherwise I would like to mention that, we are two items off from reaching the 100 mark.

Here are some ideas to add to the pot:

SCP trope contest: Participants must submit a worl featuring a containment fiction trope, regardless if its subverted or not. Think the exploration log slaughter, the thing that is too good at its job, the one thats meta for no reason, or the iteration farmer.

Monster Manual contest: This one requires participants to write an Item featuring a hostile entity. This was once the bread of the bread to the butter.

Fear Bingo: Lets ignore Zesc suspicions and just make a grid with the 25th most common phobias. Though 25 may be a little too much.

Event: Think the Haos resurgence/the tango. Every participant gives their own 2 cents about a predetermined event. The event in question can be anything. (Maybe conflict escalates with an underused GoI, or a defeat got CI on the retreat or the gradual exploration of the ruins of Atlantis)

Securety

Meta Wonderrat 07 May 2026 21:22
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Backups

Did you grab the sandbox as well?

My last backup is a bit older by now and once I am back on a machine that does not run on a core2duo I get myself one of main and sandbox, just to be sure.
Does your backup catch the forums as well? I never got it to pull those.

EDIT: I was looking into https://github.com/scp-cs/wikicomma as a better alternative to wget, but had no luck getting it to run so far.

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This

Meta Wonderrat 07 May 2026 21:14
in discussion Per Page Discussions / Per page discussions » Christmas Room

I took down the "Merry Christmas" news and got this idea.
This might be as close as it gets to an in-universe connecting tissue. Just writing an essay about how to decode my story gets into "House of Leaves" territory.

I have no idea how this reads to someone not familiar with my body of work, but it should be able to be a story that can read on its own.
It does a bit of world building and a bit of character setup, but I hope that it asks questions that can be answered.

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